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  • Where are you guys getting the washers for shimming carbs?

    My flat spot didn't go away so I am thinking about the carb shim that was talked about here. Radio Shack is no more......where can I find the proper washers to shim my carbs? Thanks

  • #2
    Are these the correct ones?
    https://www.partzilla.com/product/af...-SUDCO-009-396

    .126in. id x .275in. od x .020 (.5mm) thick

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    • #3
      Originally posted by DesertKyorugi View Post
      Are these the correct ones?
      https://www.partzilla.com/product/af...-SUDCO-009-396

      .126in. id x .275in. od x .020 (.5mm) thick
      I am sure those will work. It is not a precise thing. That said, I am pretty sure I have a bunch of the Radio Shack washers in my shop. If you can wait until I am home on the weekend I can look, and mail some to you free. Just PM me you mailing address if interested.
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      2. To settle on the most beneficial answer to any question, repeat to yourself:
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      (b) I like things pretty well the way they are.
      (c) I never worry much about anything.
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      (e) I love my wife and children.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by DesertKyorugi View Post
        Are these the correct ones?
        https://www.partzilla.com/product/af...-SUDCO-009-396

        .126in. id x .275in. od x .020 (.5mm) thick
        These should work.
        Some folks have done 2 shims per needle. I only did one and it was great.

        Be sure you also set the pilot screws to 2.5 turns out and sync the carbs after all the work is done.

        FYI: http://www.camcycle.net/HowTo/howto.html
        http://www.camcycle.net/HowTo/CarbSh...carb_shim.html
        “Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.”...Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

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        • #5
          Originally posted by reidmct View Post

          I am sure those will work. It is not a precise thing. That said, I am pretty sure I have a bunch of the Radio Shack washers in my shop. If you can wait until I am home on the weekend I can look, and mail some to you free. Just PM me you mailing address if interested.
          That would be awesome. Thank you!

          ramblin66 Yes I am planning to sync the carbs anyway with or without the washers. Read on the ZX6 forum that the washers are the fix for the flat spot on my ZZR600

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          • #6
            a 0-1 inch micrometer is necessary to measure the thickness to make sure they are all the same thickness .

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            • #7
              Originally posted by NATURALBORNKILLAR View Post
              a 0-1 inch micrometer is necessary to measure the thickness to make sure they are all the same thickness .
              Thanks for the reminder. I'll be sure to send a matched set to DesertKyorugi
              How To Cheat on Personality Tests
              1. When asked for word associations or comments about the world, give the most conventional, run-of-the-mill, pedestrian answer possible.

              2. To settle on the most beneficial answer to any question, repeat to yourself:
              (a) I loved my father and my mother, but my father a little bit more.
              (b) I like things pretty well the way they are.
              (c) I never worry much about anything.
              (d) I don't care for books or music much.
              (e) I love my wife and children.
              (f) I don't let them get in the way of company work.
              From <cite>The Organization Man</cite> by William Hollingsworth Whyte, 1956

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              • #8
                What is the going opinion on dryers?

                I have neither the time,or the inclination, to explain myself to a man, who rises and sleep under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide, and then questions the manner, in which I provide it. I'd rather you just say 'thank you' and go on your way.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by BIG O View Post
                  What is the going opinion on dryers?

                  The dryer is working well drying out the gas tank that I am cleaning out. It is from a left for dead 1986 ZL600 project bike that my son and I are working on. Yes it is a disease, I went from no bike for 20 years to having 3 bikes and a parts bike(1991 Ninja 600)

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                  • #10
                    A big THANK YOU to Reid for sending the mic'd set of washers out to me. I am so excited and can't wait to put them on. The big question is should I remove the carbs to do it? I am planning on synching the carbs too after installing the washers. Thanks

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by DesertKyorugi View Post
                      The big question is should I remove the carbs to do it?
                      Definitely, yes. It's hard enough to get the diaphragm boots seated correctly when the carbs are sitting on the workbench. I cannot imagine succeeding with them in the frame. I cannot recall if it's even possible to remove the slides without pulling the carbs out.

                      Anyway, it is not very much work to remove the carbs... as long as you have a very long allen wrench wrench for one or two of the boot clamps. IIRC it is a 4mm. Motionpro sells one; it's about 10 inches long.

                      Like this:
                      https://www.grainger.com/product/4CT...200130213939:s
                      Last edited by reidmct; 01-30-2020, 03:40 PM.
                      How To Cheat on Personality Tests
                      1. When asked for word associations or comments about the world, give the most conventional, run-of-the-mill, pedestrian answer possible.

                      2. To settle on the most beneficial answer to any question, repeat to yourself:
                      (a) I loved my father and my mother, but my father a little bit more.
                      (b) I like things pretty well the way they are.
                      (c) I never worry much about anything.
                      (d) I don't care for books or music much.
                      (e) I love my wife and children.
                      (f) I don't let them get in the way of company work.
                      From <cite>The Organization Man</cite> by William Hollingsworth Whyte, 1956

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                      • #12
                        You'll also want to drill out the pilot screws (if they are not already exposed) and reset the screws....

                        Somebody will need to tell you the right setting for the 600. For the 1200 it was 2.5 turns out from fully seated (from all the way in).

                        I would not want to do any of that without removing the carbs.
                        or.... http://www.camcycle.net/HowTo/CarbShim/carb_shim.html
                        For the 1200... http://www.camcycle.net/HowTo/CarbSh...carb_shim.html


                        “Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.”...Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

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                        • #13
                          Good point on the pilot screws, but the way to set the pilot screws is not by any particular number of turns, but rather by following the 'idle drop' procedure. It is described in the service manual, but it is essentially a standard practice (not bike-specific), so you can find good instructions on the web.
                          How To Cheat on Personality Tests
                          1. When asked for word associations or comments about the world, give the most conventional, run-of-the-mill, pedestrian answer possible.

                          2. To settle on the most beneficial answer to any question, repeat to yourself:
                          (a) I loved my father and my mother, but my father a little bit more.
                          (b) I like things pretty well the way they are.
                          (c) I never worry much about anything.
                          (d) I don't care for books or music much.
                          (e) I love my wife and children.
                          (f) I don't let them get in the way of company work.
                          From <cite>The Organization Man</cite> by William Hollingsworth Whyte, 1956

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                          • #14
                            Thanks guys. Unfortunately, the service manual does not address the "idle drop" procedure. In fact, it didn't say anything about adjusting the pilot screws other than
                            "NOTE ○Do not turn the pilot screws carelessly during carburetor synchronization. You may cause poor running at low engine speed. "
                            I think I will go with 2.5 turns since the general consensus is either 2 turns or 3 turns

                            **Found idle drop procedure online, the question now is what is the factory setting for the screws? 2006 ZZR600
                            Last edited by DesertKyorugi; 01-30-2020, 05:02 PM.

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                            • #15
                              2.5 turns works fine
                              .020 shims .125 inside holes (important, or the shims won't seat all the way on needles)
                              "If it ain't broke, don't fix it...
                              but sometimes it just needs a mod"

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